Conversations with Strangers: Location Location Location!

More conversations with strangers, and talk turns to property and location!

The shopkeeper in a Yorkshire Dales Village

I only popped in for a quick browse at some quirky antiques.

Aside from talking about her shop, we talked a lot about UK property patterns and what she was noticing up in the Dales. Apparently, “properties are barely on the market for a week or so before they sell. You need to act fast if you’re a buyer and don’t hang around waiting for prices to drop. ” her sister also happens to be an estate agent.

It’s a funny picture at the moment, with mixed messages and contradictory patterns.

The Yorkshire Dales is a more bespoke area than wider Yorkshire so perhaps more highly sought after – hence the fast pace.

Other conversations….

I’m hearing similar things down south, prices in  Essex and Kent were on the rise with more and more people edging out of London, especially since 2020. Someone I know in Kent said she couldn’t believe how much prices had gone up in her area – no more bargains to be had like in the good old days…..but still cheaper than inner London.

A woman in a shop in Leeds was beaming as she served me at the till – she said she was really happy because she’d just bought her first house and was looking forward to doing it up from scratch. I asked if it was in Leeds – “No it’s in Bingley, Leeds was just too expensive”.

It’s no surprise that cities are more expensive than outer areas – it’s just that it seems to be at its most intense nowadays, like a balloon on the brink of bursting, with no signs of slowing down – especially with the surge of brand new high-rise apartment blocks going up everywhere you look.

Back in the summer I remember talking to someone from Manchester who had moved further north into Yorkshire – she said “you’d be surprised at the number of people moving out of Manchester, it’s just too expensive for a lot of people”.

Recently I heard that big developers in parts of Manchester are forcing people to sell their properties at current market rates (apparently they have no choice); then, when they try to buy back into the Manchester property market, they’re outpriced.

As if that wasn’t bad enough,  I hear some Manchester residents also have ‘soaring insurance costs’ to contend with as well, running the risk of losing their homes. This is likely included in already extortionate service charges to leaseholders. First time buyer tip – Try to aim for a freehold property and avoid leasehold properties – especially where they’re in a block of flats/apartments owned by a developer – seems like the sky’s the limit with the service charges and eventual lease extensions. 🔥

I know an estate agent who said he and his wife were planning to buy some properties to let in the north of England – but because the market is so unappealing at the moment they’ve ditched the idea for now.

The surge of people leaving the big cities and buying property in areas that used to be much more affordable, did start driving those prices up. Not just in the UK either. – e.g. Canada has seen similar patterns. 

At the same time (depending on the area) prices are starting to slow down and we’re seeing a lot more ‘reduced’ prices filtering through, along with the general cost of living picture and the forecast of higher interest rates for borrowers.

It’s a strange mixed pattern and a bit of a gamble if you’re holding back waiting for the tide to change….there’s fierce debate about whether a crash is imminent.

On a more positive note, another Stamp Duty cut could be on the cards in the UK – so some buyers might want to pause until this is clarified.

Crikey, there’s a lot going on in 2022!!

Any thoughts, generally? 🤔

If you’re selling or house hunting this year, best wishes to you, I hope all goes well and you find the right home for you. 🤞🏡 🙏 🍾

All images – free clipart

More conversations with strangers to come.

26 thoughts on “Conversations with Strangers: Location Location Location!

  1. usfman – South Florida – I accomplished a rewarding career as a teacher and professor for 28 years.No more daily lesson plans now frees my curious mind to experience life on my own terms now.

    usfman

    Hi Cherryl – What’s going on in travel for you in 2023? Maybe back to India? I’m finding a similar pattern of escalating housing prices in South Florida. Personally I think as a habitual traveler, I find the idea of owning a house or flat quite overrated. If I was to spend that kind of money , I would settle for only what I could afford.

  2. loujen haxm'Yor – Spring Valley CA – dreamer doodler of pen and pics-- inspir'd by Time's Witchcraft. Peace.

    loujen haxm'Yor

    We get mail almost daily from folks/companies trying to buy our home (which was built in 1960 with an original price of $13,000. We paid 30.) And even though the 2022 prices are in the $600,000, we’d never move from this neighborhood of great long-time neighbors and nearby mom-n-pop shops. have a good one, Cherryl.
    Art

  3. colinmcqueen

    colinmcqueen

    I think that the government have had a very good stab at killing the housing market this week, with prices predicted to fall by about 15% I recommend putting off your Yorkshire Dales (or Kent, Essex, Bingley or Leeds…) purchase for a month or two. Of course, I’m not an estate agent and, thankfully, I don’t know any so, all in all, I wouldn’t take my advice on anything more stretching than a Mars Bar (My advice – buy Mars Bars!)

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Thanks Colin, this is interesting…the 15% figure. Are Mars Bars on the up….should we invest shares lol 😄 or maybe hot water bottles are the way to go…the way thing are going for this winter….

      Maybe not the best time to be selling at the moment, but if you’re a cash buyer, lower house prices is a good thing, right??

      For those needing a mortgage…there are a lot of potential red flags….seems to be some speculation that fixed rate deals are not going to be an option for much longer with some lenders (unless you already have one) and interest rates are predocted to keep going up.

      I really worry for those who are trying to get on the ladder or on variable rates at the moment though….

      Whatever next 🙄

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  5. debscarey – Billingshurst, West Sussex UK – Writer, Reader, Photographer and Random Scribbler. The random scribbling happens at Debs Despatches, I'm a writer for hire at Debs Carey, and I co-host Fiction Can Be Fun, where my fiction and #IWSG reflections can be found. All links below.

    debscarey

    Having lived in the southeast of the country for decades, property prices have always been quite horrifying. My daughter & her family live in East London and are looking to move to gain outdoor space for the children. Hopefully the margin between selling & buying prices remains consistent, as that’s the best one can hope for.

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Moving out of London is always a good idea where space is concerned – when you’re young and commitment free it’s worth slogging it out and waiting to build some equity. The further you edged out of London the cheaper it used to get, generally, but not sure what the picture is at the moment – after the lockdowns a lot of the seemingly cheaper areas started to go up in value as people started edging out. I hope your daughter finds a good opportunity – sounds like it will definitely be worthwhile for her family, and general wellbeing. 💫✨

  6. Ellie Carpenter – United Kingdom – Writing my memoirs, musings, a little fiction and a lot of poetry as a way of exploring and making the most of my life ... ... Having had a break from writing my blog for more than three years, I decided to return to write my memoirs, some day-to-day observations, views and feelings. My passion is non-fiction poetry. I have a disability and use an electric powerchair called Alfie and let nothing get in the way of living life to the full. I believe that you can never do a kindness too soon and should give credit where credit is due. A smile or a kind word could make the difference between a good or bad day for a person - we never know what's going on for another soul. Those little things, perhaps, practised daily like a mantra, could mean so much to someone else. Thank you for visiting my blog and reading a little more about me. Please, make yourself at home here. You are very welcome. Ellie x 😊

    Ellie Thompson

    Thanks for sharing another of your interesting conversations, Cherryl. House prices are rocketing all over the place these days. My son, Tom, is currently trying to sell his reasonably large house in Colchester. We thought it would go quite quickly given the easy access to London. Months later, it’s still on the market despite dropping the price. He needs to move up North to be near his work, and has found a house in Epworth, South Yorkshire – you might know it? I’d never heard of it before. I worry about my grandchildren being able to afford somewhere decent to live when they grow up. I can’t see much changing between now and then. Older children just can’t afford to leave home anymore to be independent. It’s scary.

    How can big developers force someone to sell their house, although I have no doubt they can, as I’ve heard of this before? But how can they get away with it? It’s just greed and power (just like the government, but don’t get me started on that!). It’s just shocking. I can’t imagine being forced to sell my house – I’d be totally devastated as these people probably are.

    I hadn’t realised that Manchester has so many high-rise properties. I’m fortunate in that I live in a city in Essex; we only have a few high-rise buildings. I don’t ever intend to move from my house. I’ve lived here for over 30 years, and I know I am fortunate to have bought this house when it was easy to purchase property all that time ago. Xx 🥰

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Hi Ellie
      Gosh it’s all over the place – a crash of sorts is definitely happening across the UK and prices are going down thicker and faster this autumn in double figures (generally – though there will always be exceptions), especially with all the recent disruptions in the economy. What a picture!! 2008 again…..🤔
      You’re right about young/first time buyers, I feel for them – it’s certainly not a great time at the minute unless they’ve got huge deposits or have good salaries and can buy in cheaper areas/commute/WFH. I wonder whether there are still and 95% mortgages for those starting out – wouldn’t be surprised if these are on the decline now as well.
      Take care 🤗x

  7. Awakening Wonders – Everyday life is filled with wondrous things and embraceable moments, but only if we allow ourselves to be fully awakened. I invite you to join me as I share passionate life adventures and ramblings that awaken my spirit. I look forward to awakening your senses to the simple, joyous wonders that are all around us. I feel that we are destined to become soulful adventurers!

    Awakening Wonders

    Country living is the place to be is holding true here in Texas too! I love your “Conversations with Strangers.” can’t wait to hear about the next one!

  8. adguru101 – USA – Formerly a creative director and writer at NY and NJ ad agencies, I'm now retired and living in Oregon, USA, with my husband and countless dust balls. With this blog, I specifically hope to reach "mid-century moderns" -- women born in the '50's -- with content and observations about the issues we deal with every day. But I welcome all readers of any age, sex, orientation, etc… you youngsters will eventually be my age too, and I love reading everyone’s comments!

    adguru101

    This has been true in the US for awhile, as well, but prices are beginning to soften as our interest rates have increased. It’s a sellers’ market with the general rule being, if you want to win out over other buyers you have to offer over the asking price, possibly with a secret “top amount” you’d be willing to spend, rather like bidding on eBay! Alisa

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Humans of new York 🧐
      I just googled it and it looks really really interesting, I love the quotes and photography by country – I’ll be taking a closer look – thanks, as I’d never heard of it before, thanks for mentioning it 🤗 👌

  9. Patti Moore Wilson, wednesdayschild2 – I write what I feel. And I rarely know exactly what I feel until I write. I have lived long enough to have known many joys and many sorrows. I have made many mistakes; I have forgiven myself for a few… I have learned that there are lessons in every step of this journey, if we only take the time to pay attention… I hope you will feel free to pick and choose the stories that resonate for you…

    Patti Moore Wilson, wednesdayschild2

    This sounds a lot like Candad, too 😕

    1. Patti Moore Wilson, wednesdayschild2 – I write what I feel. And I rarely know exactly what I feel until I write. I have lived long enough to have known many joys and many sorrows. I have made many mistakes; I have forgiven myself for a few… I have learned that there are lessons in every step of this journey, if we only take the time to pay attention… I hope you will feel free to pick and choose the stories that resonate for you…

      Patti Moore Wilson, wednesdayschild2

      Canada

  10. My Life in Our Father's World – Illinois USA – I am a wife and mother with 2 adult children and a granddaughter that brings me joy every day. I am the Assistant Director of a childcare center and a jail chaplain. I consume copious amounts of coffee not because I need it to stay awake but because I love the taste. I believe that God has a unique plan for each of us; consequently, I write what God tells me to write when He tells me to write it..

    My Life in Our Father's World

    Eavesdropping (even secondhand) can be so educational.

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Very true, and entertaining (even disturbing) though none of the below was eavesdropping – these were all conversations with strangers.

      If you’ve read any of my ‘quick cuppa’ posts, I usually have a section in there for anything I’ve ‘overheard’ – usually more funny than educational 😝

  11. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

    Cherryl

    Profits over people, you nailed it Sheila 👌 💫
    I’m glad you’re in a comfortable position – with options if need be in for the future, I hope things don’t shake up too much more in the direction they’re going, it’s hard enough for people as it is. 🏡

  12. Sheila Landry Designs – Meteghan River, Nova Scotia, Canada – I am an artist and designer of decorative painting patterns, woodworking patterns, needlework and embroidery kits and patterns, and original artwork. My Painting and Wood Surfaces for Decorative Painting is at my "Tole Painting Designs" Website My partner Keith Fenton and I sell our scroll saw patterns at our Scroll Saw Pattern website: "Sheila Landry Designs" My needlework patterns and supplies are available at my Etsy shop: "The Stitching Kitty"

    Sheila Landry Designs

    Here in Nova Scotia, the housing went up a lot in the past couple of years. Fortunately, we are in a good spot, renting from a long-time family friend and while we may see an increase (we are readying for it) it shouldn’t be horrific. My partner will inherit his mom’s house when she is no longer able to care for it (along with his brother) and we really don’t want to buy into anything at this point. We are good here for several years yet and keep our fingers crossed that things will stay the same.

    It is hard on people though. Prices everywhere are rising. Too bad these companies behind many of the increases aren’t more concerned with actual people rather than profit. But I won’t go there . . .

    Have a lovely week. <3

  13. 70smusicblog

    70smusicblog

    The increase n Stamp Duty threshold (just England and wales, I think) will push prices up again. Though that may be offside from the buyer’s perspective by the increase in the borrowing rates. Seems all a bit contradictory to me.

    (Manchester: well, Hazel Grove, Stockport. Couple years ago we went back down for football and popped round to see our old semi-detached. We paid £32k in 1986 and sold for £64 in 1990. Now … ok it was 30 years on, but those houses in that same estate were going for £300k!

    Crazy!
    🙂

    1. Cherryl – UK – This and that, an all rounder!! If it amuses, entertains, inspires or proves useful to just one person then it's doing its job! God bless x 💛🔆🌴🎨🌼✈️

      Cherryl

      Wow, the differences in price on your old Manchester house really is crazy to think.
      Manchester is very up and coming and set to double its population over the next three years and set to house the third largest number of high rises across European cities…according to a good source (scary if true), but where are they all going to live if property is becoming increasingly unaffordable, something has to give……. 😊 🤞
      You’re right, relief in one area being offset by increases in other areas is likely to be true in a lot of cases.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts – I’m sure it’s on the minds of many right now.

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